they would be taxed more. their tacks would actually go up, which is kind of surprising for a republican to suggest something like that. >> well, first of all, a lot of those people in that top 2% or 3% category of income a lot of them are business owners, and so you are taxing business income when >> that sounds like heaven. the great thing about this is the congressman will present more of his plan later today and it's a bipartisan plan so he's worked with democrats to come up with this. of course, the problem, some republicans -- >> we'll see. this is something, by the way, when we did this in 1976, carol, this was a genuine bipartisan thing where republicans said let's cut the tax rates and democrats said let's close the loopholes and one of the last true bipartisan triumphs we had in washington. i hope you're right we can get democrats aboard this too. this would raise the same amount of revenue as the currents tax system. it would be simpler. >> we'll wait to hear more from congressman camp. >> we can do